monitor "out of frequency" ( fixed kind of)

[stevenp]

when i start GE game mode full screen it my monitor gives me an "out of freequency" black screen problem, but it works with other games, anyone know what it could be?

[makslane]

Change the resolution of the game.

[Bee-Ant]

Maximal resolution of GE is 1024x768 pixels

[makslane]

You can use higher resolution if your hardware supports.

[Bee-Ant]

Oh
Yeah, that resolution depend on our monitor resolution

[Game A Gogo]

Also, if you get a more recent monitor, the problem will not occure anymore

[stevenp]

it only happens in full screen mode, and its been perfectly fine for almost a month, its just started happening yesterday randomly, and its haulting my demo, my game resolution is 640 x 480 ? its ok il try usign a diff monitor, if it doesnt work ildeal with it lol

[stevenp]

i still havent found a way to fix this problem.. and its starting to really make me stresed out...

its been almost 2 months now that iv been dealing with this problem

[Game A Gogo]

I have a clue for you: Get a new monitor!

[Freddy]

What if he has a laptop?

[stevenp]

it only happens with GE, and in full screen game mode, so getting a new monitor is not a good idea

i called a few tech guys at my local comp shop and they said

""normaly the frequency range for a monitor is 60 hertz ( i think he said hertz or something) for some reason the program ur using is shifing it out of range.. but programs are not suposed to do that...""

i am stumped... i reinstalled my vido drivers, monitor drivers... i did everything i could think of...

markslane? do you have any ideas what this could be about?

( the onyl way i can get it to work is if i run GE in windows xp safe mode, because it forces VGA mode at 60 hertz)

[Fuzzy]

Let me guess? its an LCD monitor?

They run best in native format. Thats the highest resolution that the monitor can run at. What happens when you run at a strange resolution that isnt a multiple of your native resolution is that the monitor has to count some lines as two, and others as one, switching lots. That messes with the refresh rate.

So if your monitor supports 1024x768 and you are running at 640x480.. 1024 divided by 640 is 1.6.. 768 divided by 480 is 1.6 as well. some lines of pixels are ignored or blurred into others.. see how that works?

draw one line total is 1
draw next line total is 2, but the divisor is 1.6 so save 0.4 total is currently 0.4
draw third line total is 1.4
draw fourth line and total is 2.4, round off again keeping the remainder.... 0.8
draw fifth line total is 1.8. keep 0.2
draw sixth line.. total is 1.2
7th line.. 2.2, remainder is 0.6
8th line is 1.6

at any point when there is a remainder such as 0.4 then it has to consider that data in the next screen line. Your colors might be off or image blurred..

So try this: run the game at full or 1/2 (512x384) all the pixels lines will be accounted for by the monitor and the refresh wont be messed with. Or get a new monitor.

[stevenp]

ya it is an lcd monitor,

hmm, normaly its running at 600x800 but ya i changed it 512x384, and it worked..lol thanks man

+1 for you

this is a good alternative, but 800x600 still doesnt work

[Fuzzy]

I'm betting it works in non full screen mode?

CRT monitors are not precise by their nature so that is not an issue with them. One of the only benefits...

Thanks for the point!

[stevenp]

ya it works in window mode ( but GE frame rate slows down in window mode)

so theres no way i can get to 800x600 then