INCURSION : progress thread

[J Maker]

i cant even get to the mini boss i got to the second checkpoint its an awesome game though

[d-soldier]

Is it really that hard..? I may modify it and re-upload an easier version... I didn't realize everyone would think it was so hard...

[pixelpoop]

d-soldier, great game. But since I think you are a perfectionist, I think you may prefer critizizm. So here i go.
The squish effect of the spiders is lame. The sound fx should be better and the spider should break, not flatten.
Driving a high-tech military machine I would expect the guns to have hundreds of degrees of freedom, not up, down and middle. I appreciate you wanting to keep the movement simple, but I think the cannons should be set by the up and down arrows(in 5 degree increments) since their is a seperate jump button anyway(even a lock on function could be good).
Also, as I think you already realize(from others of your posted threads) the music is weak. If you are going to break copyright laws as you do with the midi files, you should just go all out and use the original music from the artist. It would sound better without the 8-bit midi music. If you really want to use midi, I would suggest Native Instrument's Bandstand, it has an all most professional sound(although a very expensive pieces of software).
Some of the background images look like giant ground-to-space anti-craft turrets, shouldn't they be firing into space if some ship is dropping incursion characters on the ground?
Another background actor that looks weird looks like a ship's tail section with thrusters active just hovering there. Why is this just hanging out there? If the forward thrusters are on shouldn't it take-off?
Also, although this seems to plague all GE games, your character can decrees his falling speed by running against a wall.

again, great job. You go beyond most other GE developers, I just thought you may want some serious feedback.

[d-soldier]

Criticism is well accepted here... except for two of them:
I did not break any copyright laws, as I laid no claim to rights over the music, gave the author's credit, and in no way sold/traded this product for any kind of monetary gain.
The frigate remained hovering though it's back thrusters were GLOWING (not on, just glowing) because it's front thrusters were glowing as well, as it's magnetic-phase-shifter-generator was acting as an anti-gravity device... [see how this works, it's science fiction...] But no, I had orginally wanted to have the thrusters periodically "turn-on", making a hazard for the player, but had decided against it for the main reason the it looked funny that the ship remained there despite the thrusting.. so I left them in an idling glow state.
Thanks for taking the time to do a good formal critique pixelpoop!

[pixelpoop]

on copyrights,
I can't record my own versions of Metallica songs and release an album of them without Metallica's permission. Since their songs aren't in the public domain this violates the copyrights held by the original composer(in this scenario Metallica). Music is protected by 2 copyright laws, that of writing(the composer) and that of creativity(the performer). A Midi of a Metallica song is just like a cover of that song, it violates the composer's rights.
I can't take your graphics, make them black and white and use them as I see fit. It's the same deal with music.

Copyrights:MIDI Music on Websites
http://goinside.com/98/12/copyr.html

[J Maker]

dsd how did you do the shooting like if you hold it down it will keep shooting but the bullets don't overlap

[Freddy]

Hey! I like the squish effects for spiders and their sound effects!! it is a little hard, I did that with my ping pong game, beetle tomb. I guess since youre testing it all the time you get really good at it and make it really really hard. I was able to make it past the first miniboss with 2 lives left. I even got the next thing with the red light, but on my way back to that big wall, I was attacked by those mini robot things and died. The first level is intense (which is great), but dont forget that the first level is the first time people are playing, and are still getting used to the controls. So if it was a little easier it would be great! Also, I agree with pixlepoop about the gun movement, but maybe you could have it so that when you press the up arrow key the gun moves steadily up, so that there are no specific increments. But other than that and a few other easy-to-manage glitches, I'd say that its deffinetly going to be an icon that will make GE very proud. Nice work.

[arcreamer]

the only way he would be breaking the copyright law is if he claimed the song as his in his game... as u can see at the bottom of the startup screen, "all content (EXCLUDiNG music tracks)"

so in other words... he is claiming them his songs... what ur saying is that if i want to listeb Linkin Park (example) on my computer,ipod, cell phone, i would have to go ask linkin park in person for permission to put their songs on my ipod... he is not selling his game or calling the songs his so the copyright laws have no effect period.

[arcreamer]

sorry i meant to say (in other words he ISNT claiming them his songs) oops lol

[J Maker]

Hey! I like the squish effects for spiders and their sound effects!! it is a little hard, I did that with my ping pong game, beetle tomb. I guess since youre testing it all the time you get really good at it and make it really really hard. I was able to make it past the first miniboss with 2 lives left. I even got the next thing with the red light, but on my way back to that big wall, I was attacked by those mini robot things and died. The first level is intense (which is great), but dont forget that the first level is the first time people are playing, and are still getting used to the controls. So if it was a little easier it would be great! Also, I agree with pixlepoop about the gun movement, but maybe you could have it so that when you press the up arrow key the gun moves steadily up, so that there are no specific increments. But other than that and a few other easy-to-manage glitches, I'd say that its deffinetly going to be an icon that will make GE very proud. Nice work.

that's as far as i got too

[Freddy]

lol!

[Freddy]

ooh! dsd, I remembered, Im not sure if there already is what Im going to suggest in the game since I havent gotten that far yet, but here it is. If you want to still make improvements on your game (which I could understand if you didnt want to), this is what you should do. If you havnt already made a way to get lives for the robot, you should make that a possibility. Also, there should be weapon upgrades, speed upgrades and maybe jumping upgrades, damage upgrades (which would probably be squeezed in with weapon upgrades). And all sorts of stuff like that.

[Rux]

This goes to pixel poop's criticism: If the arms go all the way around it would be harder to control.

@D Soldier: I think the hardest part is the glitch that the flying ships don't die, and the keep responding whenever you die and get back to the spot, where they spawn.

[pixelpoop]

what ur saying is that if i want to listeb Linkin Park (example) on my computer,ipod, cell phone, i would have to go ask linkin park in person for permission

This is more like you gave a copy of your Linkin Park album to all of your friends. It infringes on Linkin Park's rights as an artist, the original composer's rights to the music and the record label's rights to distribute the music.

[Freddy]

I defeated the miniboss with the laser, and I went down the hole thing and destroyed the generator type thing that was making electricity for the box thing, but I dont know what to do next. I cant get passed the wall, and there are still sound effects of electricity for the box, but the animation of the electricity are gone. What should I do next?